Comments on: Boycott UPS For Refusing To Ship Beer http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/ Jay R. Brooks on Beer Tue, 22 May 2012 15:04:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://beerzine.com/?v=3.3.2 By: p. wallace http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-43764 p. wallace Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:54:50 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-43764 Nobody can ship beer or wine with out the correct licenses!!!! It is federal and some state laws!.. You have to jump through a lot of hoops and it takes time to get licensed! Check out www.northwestliquidgold.com Cheers! Nobody can ship beer or wine with out the correct licenses!!!! It is federal and some state laws!.. You have to jump through a lot of hoops and it takes time to get licensed! Check out http://www.northwestliquidgold.com Cheers!

]]> By: Brewforia Beer Market http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-24517 Brewforia Beer Market Thu, 08 Apr 2010 03:48:13 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-24517 A unfortunate update on this issue. UPS and FedEx are both now refusing our shipments claiming that we are in violation of our contract because we were shipping beer to consumers. We are contiuning to fight this policy so we can resume shipping. We are seeking the advice of legal counsel currently and have a plan of attack but we need your support. If this is a cause you believe in write or call UPS and FedEx and tell them to change the policy but more importantly call your elected representatives and tell them to support beer equality and the craft beer industry by making it possible for residents in your state to buy the beer they want and have it shipped to their homes. Thanks for all your support from all of us here at Brewforia.com Rick A unfortunate update on this issue. UPS and FedEx are both now refusing our shipments claiming that we are in violation of our contract because we were shipping beer to consumers. We are contiuning to fight this policy so we can resume shipping. We are seeking the advice of legal counsel currently and have a plan of attack but we need your support. If this is a cause you believe in write or call UPS and FedEx and tell them to change the policy but more importantly call your elected representatives and tell them to support beer equality and the craft beer industry by making it possible for residents in your state to buy the beer they want and have it shipped to their homes.

Thanks for all your support from all of us here at Brewforia.com
Rick

]]> By: Brewgoat http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-21011 Brewgoat Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:48:17 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-21011 I would agree with BCmaui on this one. While I hate to think that beer is not getting its fair share this truly is not UPS's fault. The Brewers Association has not focused on this issue in the past, at best it has been the American Homebrew Association who has worked to equalize legistlation around the country. To date this has been more focused on getting homebrewing legalized. I will support the boycott (if for no ther reason than I love being a pain in the @$$) but you should also direct your email or whatever effort towards getting the BA to fight the good fight. I would agree with BCmaui on this one. While I hate to think that beer is not getting its fair share this truly is not UPS’s fault. The Brewers Association has not focused on this issue in the past, at best it has been the American Homebrew Association who has worked to equalize legistlation around the country. To date this has been more focused on getting homebrewing legalized.

I will support the boycott (if for no ther reason than I love being a pain in the @$$) but you should also direct your email or whatever effort towards getting the BA to fight the good fight.

]]> By: BCmaui http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-20432 BCmaui Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:49:06 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-20432 You have to get the Brewer's Association to get active in creating a mechanism for inter- and intrastate shipping of beer like the wine industry did. A boycott of UPS is not addressing the legal issue that is creating this problem in the first place. Jay Brooks does not mention in his article all the time and effort the wine industry has spent overturning these cumbersome roadblocks that the 3 tier system created when prohibition was repealed. As most beer is mega swill sold at a retail level and the distributors of the mega swill like the domination of local market control that they currently enjoy, there is probably not enough interest in the beer industry to fight this. The wine industry is more fragmented and had a greater interest in fighting for these changes. Maybe the micro/craft brewers will hop on, or maybe not. UPS does not want to be in violation of crappy laws. You need to go Vermonster on crappy liquor laws, not a shipping company that does not want to risk being fined (or closed down) by an all powerful government. You have to get the Brewer’s Association to get active in creating a mechanism for inter- and intrastate shipping of beer like the wine industry did. A boycott of UPS is not addressing the legal issue that is creating this problem in the first place.

Jay Brooks does not mention in his article all the time and effort the wine industry has spent overturning these cumbersome roadblocks that the 3 tier system created when prohibition was repealed. As most beer is mega swill sold at a retail level and the distributors of the mega swill like the domination of local market control that they currently enjoy, there is probably not enough interest in the beer industry to fight this. The wine industry is more fragmented and had a greater interest in fighting for these changes. Maybe the micro/craft brewers will hop on, or maybe not.

UPS does not want to be in violation of crappy laws. You need to go Vermonster on crappy liquor laws, not a shipping company that does not want to risk being fined (or closed down) by an all powerful government.

]]> By: no more weed for you mister · 3.3.10 http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-20419 no more weed for you mister · 3.3.10 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:32:43 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-20419 [...] Boycott UPS For Refusing To Ship Beer | Brookston Beer Bulletin [...] [...] Boycott UPS For Refusing To Ship Beer | Brookston Beer Bulletin [...]

]]> By: Mr. Nuts http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-20265 Mr. Nuts Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:20:24 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-20265 Personally, I can't stand UPS. When I was shopping for a contract for my company -- their sales rep was nothing short of a lazy bum. Told me to go look my rates up in their catalog. Pfft. I ship everything via FedEx and will never use them. Personally, I can’t stand UPS. When I was shopping for a contract for my company — their sales rep was nothing short of a lazy bum. Told me to go look my rates up in their catalog. Pfft. I ship everything via FedEx and will never use them.

]]> By: Chris http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-20259 Chris Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:26:24 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-20259 I'm in. I’m in.

]]> By: UPS and FedEx Favor Wine and Reject Beer When It Comes to Businesses Shipping to Consumers http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-20253 UPS and FedEx Favor Wine and Reject Beer When It Comes to Businesses Shipping to Consumers Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:46:19 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-20253 [...] has been a problem for some time, but this issue is starting to pick up steam. Jay Brooks is calling for a boycott of UPS in order to try and start a grassroots response to let them know how ridiculous this is. I’m [...] [...] has been a problem for some time, but this issue is starting to pick up steam. Jay Brooks is calling for a boycott of UPS in order to try and start a grassroots response to let them know how ridiculous this is. I’m [...]

]]> By: jeff moses http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-20201 jeff moses Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:36:15 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-20201 i'm in. but FED EX won't ship beer either. i’m in. but FED EX won’t ship beer either.

]]> By: Josh http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-20184 Josh Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:27:54 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-20184 Well, I know these are different arenas, but in the political world, we would all write letters to our congressmen demanding change. In the business world, we usually vote with dollars - the problem is beer shipping probably doesn't constitute a large portion of UPS' sales. It might be more effective to go to UPS' investor relations page and write/call every person you can get a hold of. I know I will be writing them shortly. Well, I know these are different arenas, but in the political world, we would all write letters to our congressmen demanding change. In the business world, we usually vote with dollars – the problem is beer shipping probably doesn’t constitute a large portion of UPS’ sales. It might be more effective to go to UPS’ investor relations page and write/call every person you can get a hold of. I know I will be writing them shortly.

]]> By: Boycott UPS | Its Beer-o-clock http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-20135 Boycott UPS | Its Beer-o-clock Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:01:35 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-20135 [...] Brooks, from Brookston Beer Bulletin, has a post on why we should Boycott UPS.  As I posted here a few days ago, UPS has strong [...] [...] Brooks, from Brookston Beer Bulletin, has a post on why we should Boycott UPS.  As I posted here a few days ago, UPS has strong [...]

]]> By: Jim http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-20103 Jim Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:25 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-20103 I ship beer to friends via UPS, telling them I'm shipping olive oil. Folks with stupid policies deserve to be scammed or boycotted. I ship beer to friends via UPS, telling them I’m shipping olive oil. Folks with stupid policies deserve to be scammed or boycotted.

]]> By: Maggie Sudduth http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-20082 Maggie Sudduth Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:47:21 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-20082 Lame! Really makes no sense whatsoever. What a terrible and senseless internal policy that is NOT helping them grow their business. Hope UPS sees the errs of their ways soon and revises their policies. Lame! Really makes no sense whatsoever. What a terrible and senseless internal policy that is NOT helping them grow their business. Hope UPS sees the errs of their ways soon and revises their policies.

]]> By: Thomas http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-19985 Thomas Sun, 07 Mar 2010 05:47:32 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-19985 How about Jay asking homebrew shops to move from UPS to Fedex until they change policy. If we could get shops to change their base it could bring real impact, especially just a few big shops changing policy could make a difference. How about Jay asking homebrew shops to move from UPS to Fedex until they change policy. If we could get shops to change their base it could bring real impact, especially just a few big shops changing policy could make a difference.

]]> By: Adam http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-19965 Adam Sun, 07 Mar 2010 04:03:14 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-19965 Will do! I'm already boycotting the USPS for destroying a copy of Beer Advocate and almost destroying another without taking any responsibility, so might as well cut more off. Will do! I’m already boycotting the USPS for destroying a copy of Beer Advocate and almost destroying another without taking any responsibility, so might as well cut more off.

]]> By: Sean Inman http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-19938 Sean Inman Sun, 07 Mar 2010 01:52:57 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-19938 So are we encouraging economic growth or stamping it out? You would think that UPS would do whatever they could to get MORE business. So are we encouraging economic growth or stamping it out? You would think that UPS would do whatever they could to get MORE business.

]]> By: christopher darby http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-19936 christopher darby Sun, 07 Mar 2010 01:42:47 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-19936 count me in on the boycott until the end, this is ridiculous. count me in on the boycott until the end, this is ridiculous.

]]> By: Foul Ball UPS - Home Brew Forums http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-19921 Foul Ball UPS - Home Brew Forums Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:59:11 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-19921 [...] Foul Ball UPS Great Article by Jay Brooks http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/ [...] [...] Foul Ball UPS Great Article by Jay Brooks http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/ [...]

]]> By: aperfectpint http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-19882 aperfectpint Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:23:03 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-19882 it's not just the shippers that treat beer and wine differently. Google's Adwords is another example. You can advertise anything you want related to wine. You can't advertise anything at all that promotes beer or the consumption of beer. I went round and round with them trying to get ads approved for my beer tasting business. I finally gave up when they threatened to cancel my google account altogether. it’s not just the shippers that treat beer and wine differently. Google’s Adwords is another example. You can advertise anything you want related to wine. You can’t advertise anything at all that promotes beer or the consumption of beer. I went round and round with them trying to get ads approved for my beer tasting business. I finally gave up when they threatened to cancel my google account altogether.

]]> By: Rob aka Beer Drinker http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/boycott-ups-for-refusing-to-ship-beer/comment-page-1/#comment-19865 Rob aka Beer Drinker Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:46:49 +0000 http://brookston.beerzine.com/?p=4400#comment-19865 You can count me in. I wont use UPS until the boycott is called off! You can count me in. I wont use UPS until the boycott is called off!

]]>