Comments on: MADD Hopping Mad Over Movement to Lower Drinking Age http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/madd-hopping-mad-over-movement-to-lower-drinking-age/ Jay R. Brooks on Beer Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:22:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://beerzine.com/?v=3.3.1 By: Chris Kalata http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/madd-hopping-mad-over-movement-to-lower-drinking-age/comment-page-1/#comment-964 Chris Kalata Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:45:23 +0000 http://www.brookstonbeerbulletin.com/madd-hopping-mad-over-movement-to-lower-drinking-age/#comment-964 It's about time there's some change. Maybe these worthless special interest groups will finally lose the power they've been toting for too long. It’s about time there’s some change. Maybe these worthless special interest groups will finally lose the power they’ve been toting for too long.

]]> By: J http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/madd-hopping-mad-over-movement-to-lower-drinking-age/comment-page-1/#comment-963 J Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:28:53 +0000 http://www.brookstonbeerbulletin.com/madd-hopping-mad-over-movement-to-lower-drinking-age/#comment-963 Lew, I think you're absolutely correct that in a sense this a good thing, because it shows them for what they are — extremists and moral zealots trying to impose their own set of beliefs on the country at large. I think the growing debate is, at least in part, a backlash against their storm trooper tactics and propaganda already. So what they're doing now will likely backfire, too, and only deepen the divide between reasonableness and their increasingly untenable position. Lew,

I think you’re absolutely correct that in a sense this a good thing, because it shows them for what they are — extremists and moral zealots trying to impose their own set of beliefs on the country at large. I think the growing debate is, at least in part, a backlash against their storm trooper tactics and propaganda already. So what they’re doing now will likely backfire, too, and only deepen the divide between reasonableness and their increasingly untenable position.

]]> By: Butch http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/madd-hopping-mad-over-movement-to-lower-drinking-age/comment-page-1/#comment-962 Butch Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:12:52 +0000 http://www.brookstonbeerbulletin.com/madd-hopping-mad-over-movement-to-lower-drinking-age/#comment-962 What can I say other than I agree? It is a damn shame that a group that has done such good, and could do so much more, has turned into a bunch of neo-prohibitionists. What can I say other than I agree? It is a damn shame that a group that has done such good, and could do so much more, has turned into a bunch of neo-prohibitionists.

]]> By: California Pete http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/madd-hopping-mad-over-movement-to-lower-drinking-age/comment-page-1/#comment-961 California Pete Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:21:04 +0000 http://www.brookstonbeerbulletin.com/madd-hopping-mad-over-movement-to-lower-drinking-age/#comment-961 Much like the Anti-Saloon League, which a century ago quickly moved beyond "saloons," Mothers Against Drunk Driving doesn't seem to have a whole lot do with "drunk driving" anymore, let alone motherhood. If only MADD would stick to its original, eponymous mission, it would be so much more effective as it would find a lot of very willing partners within the industry, including producers, distributors, consumers, journalists, and consumers/enthusiasts such as myself. No group is more opposed to drunk driving and other forms of alcohol abuse than beer lovers ourselves, but MADD has been hijacked by neo-prohibitionist teetotalers and the result is an unnecessary and throughly unproductive political paralysis as we all waste our efforts drawing and defending our respective battle lines rather than working together to actually make a better world. Shame on you, MADD! Much like the Anti-Saloon League, which a century ago quickly moved beyond “saloons,” Mothers Against Drunk Driving doesn’t seem to have a whole lot do with “drunk driving” anymore, let alone motherhood. If only MADD would stick to its original, eponymous mission, it would be so much more effective as it would find a lot of very willing partners within the industry, including producers, distributors, consumers, journalists, and consumers/enthusiasts such as myself. No group is more opposed to drunk driving and other forms of alcohol abuse than beer lovers ourselves, but MADD has been hijacked by neo-prohibitionist teetotalers and the result is an unnecessary and throughly unproductive political paralysis as we all waste our efforts drawing and defending our respective battle lines rather than working together to actually make a better world. Shame on you, MADD!

]]> By: Lew Bryson http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/madd-hopping-mad-over-movement-to-lower-drinking-age/comment-page-1/#comment-960 Lew Bryson Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:53:46 +0000 http://www.brookstonbeerbulletin.com/madd-hopping-mad-over-movement-to-lower-drinking-age/#comment-960 Right on, Jay. But I'm actually REALLY GLAD that MADD and PIRE and CAMY and all the other screaming crazy anti-alcohol groups are hopping mad and screaming about this reasonable debate. I'm GLAD they created their new "UNDER 21 IS DEATH!!" website. Because, you see, just like the way they're always fiddling with the warning labels, and the nutrition labels, and the advertising on booze to make brewers and distillers spend money and time combating their ridiculous claims (but never vintners, oh, no),always filing silly lawsuits and irresponsibly conceived press releases that require responses... now THEY are having to spend money and time and effort on this, instead of coming up with new ways to drive us all nuts and curtail our freedoms and stigmatize the normal, moderate consumption of booze. Hurray. See how they like playing defense for a change. Attrition, baby. Right on, Jay. But I’m actually REALLY GLAD that MADD and PIRE and CAMY and all the other screaming crazy anti-alcohol groups are hopping mad and screaming about this reasonable debate. I’m GLAD they created their new “UNDER 21 IS DEATH!!” website.

Because, you see, just like the way they’re always fiddling with the warning labels, and the nutrition labels, and the advertising on booze to make brewers and distillers spend money and time combating their ridiculous claims (but never vintners, oh, no),always filing silly lawsuits and irresponsibly conceived press releases that require responses… now THEY are having to spend money and time and effort on this, instead of coming up with new ways to drive us all nuts and curtail our freedoms and stigmatize the normal, moderate consumption of booze.

Hurray. See how they like playing defense for a change. Attrition, baby.

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